Oh how I love that Catholic "love the sinner, hate the sin". Let's see how that runs: love you, hate the fact that you're Jewish; love you, hate the fact that you're black; love you, hate how you are ... Actually, no, that is not love, that is belittling condescension passing itself off as "love".
That making a 13,14,15,16-year-old think they are against God and "outside nature", that they are "objectively disordered", that they are "oriented towards an intrinsic evil", because they are part of the human sexual diversity which is clearly an inherent part of human nature counts as "decent" or "Godly" is revealing in itself.
It’ll get worse before it gets better. Indeed, it’ll get worse even as it gets better, even because it gets better.is completely sound, as anyone who has studied the history of Jewish emancipation realises. The closer Jews got to legal and social equality, the more frenzied Jew-hatred became.
Indeed, if one wants to understand the C18th and C19th debates over Jewish emancipation, just think of contemporary debates over queer (i.e. all those who do not fit into simple sex=gender assumptions) emancipation, substitute "homosexual" for "Jew" and almost all the patterns repeat -- including the accusations laid against the "damage" that would be done allowing the Jews/homosexuals legal equality, that it is an affront to people's religious conscience, the accusations being made against a small minority (that they are against God, that they have betrayed their God-given nature/role, that they are engaged in a conspiracy against Christianity, that they corrupt everything they touch or are incorporated into, that they prey on children, that it is an offense against basic principles of the civilisation, that "science" proves their twisted nature) and so on.
Back in the C19th, the US was "betraying Christian civilisation" by giving legal equality to the "Christ-killers", the Russians "understood" what a dire threat Jews "really" were and the rest of Europe was the battleground. Now, Europe is "betraying Christian civilisation" by giving legal equality to the "intrinsically disordered", Africans "understand" what a dire threat homosexuals "really" are and the US is the battleground.
Noah's post included this quote from someone talking to an Orthodox rabbi:
I shared with him that people who are gay and lesbian who want to remain true to the Torah are in a great deal of pain. Many have just left the community. Some young gay people become so desperate they attempt suicide.(Why not lose your composure I wonder?)
His reply: “Maybe it’s a mitzvah for them to do so.”
At first I was speechless. I asked for clarification, and yes, this is exactly what he meant. Since gay people are guilty of capital crimes, perhaps it might be a good idea for them to do the job themselves. For the rest of the conversation I was shaking, using every ounce of my strength to end the conversation without losing my composure.
That, even now, some Jews have not learnt how deadly the notion that some minority "deserves" extermination is, itself demonstrates how the deadly notion that people are not "real people", not legitimate manifestations of human, is to understanding and moral decency.