tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2197051945822486684.post3436098116051970827..comments2024-03-29T05:05:01.273+11:00Comments on Thinking Out Aloud: The condescending hatred of the "Godly"Lorenzohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00305933404442191098noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2197051945822486684.post-18270169388887115042010-11-12T16:07:41.314+11:002010-11-12T16:07:41.314+11:00That does answer the question nicely: I defer to y...That does answer the question nicely: I defer to your greater experience :)Lorenzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305933404442191098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2197051945822486684.post-16721305578107866722010-11-12T01:14:29.567+11:002010-11-12T01:14:29.567+11:00You asked "Why not lose your composure I wond...You asked "Why not lose your composure I wonder?"<br /><br />And the answer is, is that it wouldn't have done anything at all to the rabbi's opinion. If the rabbi was of a highly Orthodox school, he probably would have simply stared rather blankly at the speaker or simply shrugged it off.<br /><br />The Ultra-Orthodox, especially in today's world, are seen as modern people when they dress in suits and normal clothing, but there is a huge cultural gap that would be made easier for everyone to understand if they spoke a different language and dressed completely differently as the Hassidic schools do.<br />They think differently, and have have different frames of reference for the language that they share with the nations around them, and nobody seems to notice.<br /><br />^Speaking as somebody with lots of Ultra-Orthodox relations, who enjoys tweaking their noses with whatever is handy. Political/cultural issues work fine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2197051945822486684.post-67450380872908003792010-10-21T19:54:42.986+11:002010-10-21T19:54:42.986+11:00Peter: yes Jamaica is pretty vile in that regard. ...Peter: yes Jamaica is pretty vile in that regard. Of course, it is a bit of Africa in the Caribbean ...<br /><br />Regarding coming out to families: yes, indeed. Desperate wanting not to see often explains adverse reactions.<br /><br />Catholic moaning about being treated badly can get a little tiresome, poor dears, At worse, it is usually just them being treated as plenty of Others have been treated by Catholics.Lorenzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305933404442191098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2197051945822486684.post-28123740542925981542010-10-21T00:01:24.289+11:002010-10-21T00:01:24.289+11:00If you want to see homophobia at its most unvarnis...If you want to see homophobia at its most unvarnished, evil self, go to Jamaica!Peter Pattonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2197051945822486684.post-54561327488769632902010-10-20T23:59:39.217+11:002010-10-20T23:59:39.217+11:00LE
The number of - Australian - people I know who...LE<br /><br />The number of - Australian - people I know who have dreaded telling their families for years that they are gay. When they finally summon the courage, the entire family looks blankly at them, and says "well Der, we could have told you that 20 years ago". :)Peter Pattonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2197051945822486684.post-4872201339834968212010-10-20T23:56:29.831+11:002010-10-20T23:56:29.831+11:00Oh Lorenzo. You beastly imperialist anti-papist! D...Oh Lorenzo. You beastly imperialist anti-papist! Don't you know the poor Catholics are never given a moment's rest from their eternity of Otherness.<br /><br />I always say, hate the socialism, love the socialist! ;)<br /><br /><br />http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/10/18/both-atheist-rationalism-and-catholic-triumphalism-betray-mary-mackillops-legacy/Peter Pattonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2197051945822486684.post-37934860436637043932010-10-18T14:21:31.232+11:002010-10-18T14:21:31.232+11:00Yes, truly stunning. My three part review of Claud...Yes, truly stunning. My three part review of Claudia Koonz's excellent <>The Nazi Conscience (particularly <a href="http://lorenzo-thinkingoutaloud.blogspot.com/2010/10/nazi-conscience-1.html" rel="nofollow">the first part</a>) touches on this.Lorenzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305933404442191098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2197051945822486684.post-61073156376947622552010-10-18T08:36:49.796+11:002010-10-18T08:36:49.796+11:00Oy vey, I drew in my breath at that comment from t...Oy vey, I drew in my breath at that comment from the Orthodox rabbi. I think I would have lost my temper.<br /><br />I have seen a number of people who grew up in very religious families (both Christian and Jewish) discover that they are gay or lesbian. Their struggle is terrible. <br /><br />One friend said, "I've got something terrible to tell you." "What?" said I. "I'm a lesbian," she said. "Yep," I replied, "I guessed that one. Now what's the terrible thing you were going to tell me?" She burst into tears. Poor darlin'. She said, "I'm going to go to hell!" and I hugged her and said, "Ah well, we'll have a lot of fun there together" (she had long been upset at the fact I was a heathen was headed straight to hell).Legal Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01096038577529334966noreply@blogger.com